mak
13.02.2004, 12:29
Hi all
Ну вот народ, Грифф завинтил гайки окончательно для клонов своих боксов. С чем всех и поздравляю
:lol:
Вот что по этому поводу написано на одном из официальных суппортов
"Since Anatoly and his boss have moved the hacking of Griffin to new stage we are forced to also move. We could have done this earlier but we delayed this, because it will make the updating of the box harder for the users. Anyway in order to protect our users and their investment we are forced to do it now.
Here is what GriffinTeam will do:
1. Next update for Nokia will be personal – meaning that each box will need personal update.
2. After each uploading of personal update you will have to upload activation file for this update. The activation file will be online generated for you.
So here is the scenario what will happen to the cloned boxes of Anatoly, Davor and all o others who don’t have the brains to produce so they cheat to make a living.
On stage 1 Downloading of the GPS is limited to 3 downloads ( 3 because if the internet connection is unstable it may drop, the file is less then 10KB so every loyal user should be able to download it with 3 retries). Regarding cleanings only 3 users will manage to download from griffinteam site. So the jerks will have to distribute the GPS to all clients that bought MCUs. It is much easier to track them sending those files. As soon as we track a GPS we will know the SN of the box it is made for. So next update for the tracked SN will kill the box , or we will simply not generate update for this SN. NOTE that the guys that clone boxes can’t generate GPS or GAK files, they can only use them. So this will be the major approach to track new cloned SNs.
On stage 2, once the updating tool uploads the GPS to box, box will return request for activation of the update. Without activation the update will not work, thus the box will be useless. The activation tool will send the request to the online server and receive back the activation for the update. After activation is uploaded box will be operational. Of course ONLY ONE activation will be generated for each SN. Note that with this even if the MCUs are generated from the same original, they will still need two different activations for the update. This will lead to the state where: Ok they can clone MCU with certain update and the clones will be fully operation but it will be impossible to be updated.
Now our information is that in most of the cases the cheaters sell at almost the same price as we sell to the big resellers, so every************ can make the math and decide if he wants to spend 20usd less and buy MCU that is without support or buy original MCU and enjoy our support.
3. As any other protection Griffin protection could be brutforced. In general it takes 3-6 month to brutforce the keys. As soon as we know that they managed to brutforce the keys ( in other words are able to generate GAK/GPS) , we will release update that changes the key pair and again they will have nothing.
4.So we strongly recommend our users too keep the gak files of their boxes confidential as this guarantees the that their box SN will not be cloned. ":ninzya:
Ну вот народ, Грифф завинтил гайки окончательно для клонов своих боксов. С чем всех и поздравляю
:lol:
Вот что по этому поводу написано на одном из официальных суппортов
"Since Anatoly and his boss have moved the hacking of Griffin to new stage we are forced to also move. We could have done this earlier but we delayed this, because it will make the updating of the box harder for the users. Anyway in order to protect our users and their investment we are forced to do it now.
Here is what GriffinTeam will do:
1. Next update for Nokia will be personal – meaning that each box will need personal update.
2. After each uploading of personal update you will have to upload activation file for this update. The activation file will be online generated for you.
So here is the scenario what will happen to the cloned boxes of Anatoly, Davor and all o others who don’t have the brains to produce so they cheat to make a living.
On stage 1 Downloading of the GPS is limited to 3 downloads ( 3 because if the internet connection is unstable it may drop, the file is less then 10KB so every loyal user should be able to download it with 3 retries). Regarding cleanings only 3 users will manage to download from griffinteam site. So the jerks will have to distribute the GPS to all clients that bought MCUs. It is much easier to track them sending those files. As soon as we track a GPS we will know the SN of the box it is made for. So next update for the tracked SN will kill the box , or we will simply not generate update for this SN. NOTE that the guys that clone boxes can’t generate GPS or GAK files, they can only use them. So this will be the major approach to track new cloned SNs.
On stage 2, once the updating tool uploads the GPS to box, box will return request for activation of the update. Without activation the update will not work, thus the box will be useless. The activation tool will send the request to the online server and receive back the activation for the update. After activation is uploaded box will be operational. Of course ONLY ONE activation will be generated for each SN. Note that with this even if the MCUs are generated from the same original, they will still need two different activations for the update. This will lead to the state where: Ok they can clone MCU with certain update and the clones will be fully operation but it will be impossible to be updated.
Now our information is that in most of the cases the cheaters sell at almost the same price as we sell to the big resellers, so every************ can make the math and decide if he wants to spend 20usd less and buy MCU that is without support or buy original MCU and enjoy our support.
3. As any other protection Griffin protection could be brutforced. In general it takes 3-6 month to brutforce the keys. As soon as we know that they managed to brutforce the keys ( in other words are able to generate GAK/GPS) , we will release update that changes the key pair and again they will have nothing.
4.So we strongly recommend our users too keep the gak files of their boxes confidential as this guarantees the that their box SN will not be cloned. ":ninzya: